Dear Clones, With El Nino killing our summer wind but still generating some reasonable surf I've found myself looking, for the first time, into 90 liter wave boards. I was all set to go with the Tempo 92 when I saw the 2011 LS Quad 95! I'm 75kg and my home beach is 30-40degrees side on every windy day (this year 11-18 knots) . I love to go frontside, so the speed preserving bottom turn is key! Currently I ride the Evo 83, and RRD Twinzer 82 (rides much smaller). I have a Kona 10-5 so I can always get out, but I'm tired of riding (and carrying) it. My 2 biggest criteria are carrying speed into the lip, and being able to to bring the board all the way back around ( almost 270 degrees!) off the lip without "catching" (with the nose headed straight at the beach). Deep down I crave the quad , but am I just hung up on fashion? Your comparison of the Quatro 85's last year might suggest the Tempo. Does the same hold true for the 95? Real issue: can you really SNAP the tail all the way around on a quad on an onshore top turn? Or should I just stick with twins? Thanks one and all for any advice. P.S. Thanks so much for the great mag! I got clued in about 3 years ago by some Welsh guys in San Carlos. Windsurfing is nearly dead at our beach, and I love seeing it alive and well somewhere! Jeff http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5278#msg-5278 Fri, 24 May 2013 15:42:30 +0000 Phorum 5.2.19 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7721#msg-7721 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7721#msg-7721
Sail in south wales - average wave sailor - happy DTL - trying back loops but not sailing away from them etc.

No industry ties or brand allegancies.

Tried a few boards (fanatic twin and quad, starboards, witchcraft, mistral twin) and read up on alot.

Have the Quattro LS 95 and Twin 84.

The LS 95 quad - I chose because it is a wave board that will happily take my largest sail 6.2M - for those light wind days. It is not the fastest to get going but is great when going. As a guide I had the RRD Freestyle Wave 95 (2000) before hand - tried the Quad in exactly the same conditions as the RRD ie 20 mins on each - compare contrast etc. The Quad got on the plane just as quick - very easy to sail. What the Quad does is steam up wind which in South/West Wales is great as often you have to sail up wind to breaks, often against strong tides.

Great as a bump and jump.

But it really wins on the wave - No other board I have tried of this size has the combination of getting you up wind to catch the waves and then gives you great tight turns and great speed riding the wave. As a big wave board and/or for onshore conditions I find it ideal.

It seems to work much better with the mast track close to the back last 1/3rd - planes quicker and much looser.

It is again great with a 5.3 when not enough power for a smaller board.

If I'm well powered up on a 5.3m - then move to the 84 Twin - looser, lively, faster again a superb board.

But after 6 months - with gusty UK conditions and strong tides in our area - I get alot more time on the Quad probably 4 to 1.

Would genuinely not change either.

Both great jumpers. Both great getting out over white water etc

If you want fastest on the plane then another board may be your choice but if you want to get out through the breakers in marginal wind on a 5.3 and want to get up wind to the breaks and want a waveboard that will take 6/6.3 in those light wind conditions to complement a smaller wave board (so you don't have to have a 3rd board) I have found the LS 95 the ideal fit.

But always worth seeing if you can try one before buying - as everyone has different tastes..

Good luck with whatever you buy]]> cardigandan ASK A CLONE Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:20:25 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7699#msg-7699 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7699#msg-7699 Jan ASK A CLONE Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:15:05 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7698#msg-7698 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,7698#msg-7698
Currently ride JP FSW 98L, JP RWW 83 - both 2005's. For hi winds, 2000 Naish 8'4". 4.2/4.7/5.2/6.0 Ezzy Wave Panthers.

I am an advanced sailor trying to get more proficient in the waves. I mostly encounter side-on, less than optimal wave conditions.

Most reports are indicate using quads 5L larger. Most reports also indicate quads are better than twins.
I was strongly considering the Tempo 92 in the quiver but now may exclude it and go bigger:

Q FSW 105 and Q Quad 95. If the budget allowed, and the Q Quad 95 works out, round out the quiver with a Q Quad 85 at a later date.

Thx in advance for any and all thoughts.]]> jjrc ASK A CLONE Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:31:45 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6667#msg-6667 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6667#msg-6667 this is NOT the right board for ONSHORE conditions: neither for frontside rides nor for getting out.
i'd consider the tempo (all test are equivocal about this).
the 75 L LS quads "shines" in DTL conditions and bigger waves.]]> freeskiing ASK A CLONE Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:16:05 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6666#msg-6666 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6666#msg-6666 I find that, with my skill and weight, the 88 is often to small to easily get out in onshore (north sea) conditions. For the lighter wind days I use the Angulo sumo 105 and this one is to big for 5.2 weather and smaller.
Will the quad 95 be a better float and better to quickly get out and still be a good high wind board than the Chango 88? Or will there not be much difference. Their width is about the same but the Quatro is much shorter.
Another to consider is maybe the Temp 92l.. A bit less volume but a cm more width.. wich one will be the better choice for me?

thanks.]]> Jos ASK A CLONE Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:05:35 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6415#msg-6415 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,6415#msg-6415 Erik ASK A CLONE Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:47:06 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5908#msg-5908 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5908#msg-5908 If i lived in cross on joy!, id have tempo all day long, as it is, iam rollin with the quads!, Super Fly!.]]> Adam from sw massive ASK A CLONE Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:38:23 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5907#msg-5907 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5907#msg-5907 Southern Surf ASK A CLONE Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:31:15 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5904#msg-5904 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5904#msg-5904
Thanks

Very interested to hear your comments]]> Mdw ASK A CLONE Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:56:10 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5857#msg-5857 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5857#msg-5857 genuinly think its the next positive option for dtl.
The 95ls turns tighter and with more speed than any board ive had, i have no ties or sponsor sxxt, just spreadin the joy!.
Well done in the comp murry, turned out alright again eh?.]]> Adam from sw massive ASK A CLONE Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:14:36 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5855#msg-5855 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5855#msg-5855
Personal loyalties prevent me from buying any of zerogravity's product portfolio.

Thanks for the demo offer anyway and i hope you have a great autumn of wind and waves.

Cheers
big EARS.]]> Jodrell Bank ASK A CLONE Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:19:14 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5854#msg-5854 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5854#msg-5854
My name is Murray and i work with Quatro in the UK. Now that I have introduced myself you now 'Have a relationship' with me. I would be more then happy to try and arrange a demo for you on the boards. Likewise the offer is extended to anyone who would like to have a go or who would like some more information on our gear. I have used the boards a lot this year and have been really impressed. The Quad is a feel thing, you have to have a few spins to get the feel of it. Once you do you'll be so stoked! They turn with soo much conviction, grip and drive. The bottom turn is fluid allowing for a really smacking top turn. In jumping conditions they perform as well.. Hacking up wind is superb.

Please if anyone would like to have a chat do give either myself or any of our dealers a call. I can be contacted on 07812 399723 and our dealers can be found (http://www.zerogravitydistribution.co.uk/dealer.html).

All the best, hope everyone is enjoying the wind!]]> murray@zerogravitydistrbution.co.uk ASK A CLONE Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:59:02 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5853#msg-5853 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5853#msg-5853
Btw, I am 210lbs (~94kg) and windsurf along the Santa Cruz coast and in the SF Bay.]]> arnie ASK A CLONE Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:22:33 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5837#msg-5837 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5837#msg-5837 Kinda makes the twin thing seem very narrow in the range of what it does - im really glad i dont have any old ones to try and sell now.
Personally i can see a 3 board quiver of a 71/82 quad and a 98 freestyle as being pretty much the ultimate combo.
Cheers
big ears]]> jodrell bank ASK A CLONE Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:53:19 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5836#msg-5836 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5836#msg-5836 A) option ls 75 + ls85 + fsw around 100 lts . ( that s more or less the quiver I have nowadays)
Or b) directly going for the ls 95. ( and having only 2 boards : 75+95) In this case i would like to know if it feels really too much big or no, and how it performs with 5.3 ? 4.7..? ..for your words ok with 5.7 my biggest sail. ( i am 75 kgs, similar to OregonJeff , and based in catalonia- mediterranean sea, not so good waves but lots of attitude. Sorry for my bad english).
Thank you..]]> Ori ASK A CLONE Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:11:38 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5803#msg-5803 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5803#msg-5803 Chris C ASK A CLONE Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:21:50 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5802#msg-5802 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5802#msg-5802 Chris C ASK A CLONE Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:20:36 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5801#msg-5801 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5801#msg-5801
I guess I am convinced re the turning capabilities in good waves. But how about sluggish conditions, and especially I'd be keen to understand whether you notice lack of downwind speed and maybe cnosequently less jumping performance?

Appreciate your help!]]> tho_vis ASK A CLONE Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:57:02 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5498#msg-5498 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5498#msg-5498 Oregonjeff ASK A CLONE Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:09:55 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5494#msg-5494 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5494#msg-5494 Oregonjeff ASK A CLONE Tue, 31 Aug 2010 02:49:28 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5369#msg-5369 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5369#msg-5369 rocket ronnie ASK A CLONE Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:06:30 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5287#msg-5287 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5287#msg-5287 Oregonjeff ASK A CLONE Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:55:32 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5282#msg-5282 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5282#msg-5282
cheers

steve]]> snappersteve ASK A CLONE Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:20:20 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5278#msg-5278 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,5278,5278#msg-5278 With El Nino killing our summer wind but still generating some reasonable surf I've found myself looking, for the first time, into 90 liter wave boards. I was all set to go with the Tempo 92 when I saw the 2011 LS Quad 95! I'm 75kg and my home beach is 30-40degrees side on every windy day (this year 11-18 knots) . I love to go frontside, so the speed preserving bottom turn is key! Currently I ride the Evo 83, and RRD Twinzer 82 (rides much smaller). I have a Kona 10-5 so I can always get out, but I'm tired of riding (and carrying) it. My 2 biggest criteria are carrying speed into the lip, and being able to to bring the board all the way back around ( almost 270 degrees!) off the lip without "catching" (with the nose headed straight at the beach). Deep down I crave the quad , but am I just hung up on fashion? Your comparison of the Quatro 85's last year might suggest the Tempo. Does the same hold true for the 95?
Real issue: can you really SNAP the tail all the way around on a quad on an onshore top turn? Or should I just stick with twins?
Thanks one and all for any advice.
P.S. Thanks so much for the great mag! I got clued in about 3 years ago by some Welsh guys in San Carlos. Windsurfing is nearly dead at our beach, and I love seeing it alive and well somewhere! Jeff]]> Oregonjeff ASK A CLONE Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:09:39 +0000