Hi There, Will you guys be testing BIG wave boards in the 90's litres? Seems that with the new quad configuration these are a must for the quiver and also maybe as one board quiver. I weight 78kg, but don't sail much so these are easy boards to jump on and feel as if I you were sailing often. Also range is huge so can take down to 4.5m sails. By the way I am looking at getting the RRD wave cult 92 quad or the Tabou Da Curve Quad 91. Any comparisons among these would also be much appreciated. Thank you, and good wind to you. WP http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6265#msg-6265 Sun, 19 May 2013 00:30:37 +0000 Phorum 5.2.19 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,7213#msg-7213 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,7213#msg-7213 Windandbigwaves ASK A CLONE Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:02:07 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6367#msg-6367 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6367#msg-6367 edmund ASK A CLONE Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:50:09 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6366#msg-6366 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6366#msg-6366 woodpecker ASK A CLONE Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:08:36 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6365#msg-6365 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6365#msg-6365 Perhaps you should go in the store and lift one up.
Heavy boards not good.



Sailrepair,
Anyone picking up an Evil Twin 70 or 75 at £650 got a bargain. But I imagine if you were selling them then this would be a problem for you.

Regardless of the headline price, it's best to see for yourself which board suits you.
And, if you are selling the 2011 Starboard Quad IQs – or just thinking of buying new – you should give them a go. Superb boards, with a new fin system adaptable to different sailing styles and wave conditions.

I guess most people won't know this because the prices of all new boards is high, people haven't got the money to spend right now, and the Quads haven't been tested much.]]> billy ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:53:32 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6364#msg-6364 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6364#msg-6364 Heavy boards not good.



Sailrepair,
Anyone picking up an Evil Twin 70 or 75 at £650 got a bargain. But I imagine if you were selling them then this would be a problem for you.

Regardless of the headline price, it's best to see for yourself which board suits you.
And, if you are selling the 2011 Starboard Quad IQs – or just thinking of buying new – you should give them a go. Superb boards, with a new fin system adaptable to different sailing styles and wave conditions.

I guess most people won't know this because the prices of all new boards is high, people haven't got the money to spend right now, and the Quads haven't been tested much.]]> billy ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:50:36 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6363#msg-6363 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6363#msg-6363
From what we have used, which is pretty much all of them.. The Fanatic twin 93 stands out as it just works in a huge range of conditions so much so that ive never got round to getting a smaller board(86-89kg). If quatro made a bigger version of the 83 KT then that would be up there too.. Every other big wave board felt too compromised in one way or another for proper wavesailing..

Jim/Puravida has been working on something that will fill the gap that production has left wide open ie wave boards that work in good conditions for 85-95kg guys..

Interesting times to come for the British custom scene....]]> merrony ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:11:54 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6361#msg-6361 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6361#msg-6361
I've just tested:

Quattro KT and LS 80ish and 90 ish range
RRD WC 92
Fanatic Twin 90 something
Moo custom 98 ish
RRD FSW 96

....so I know the weights and more importantly the feelings of all those boards. The RRD is not only physically heavier but feels heavier on the wave, and needs alot more power to get it going when the other boards are up and running and ripping, while you could possibly still be struggling on the RRD.

Don't get me wrong , I'm usually an RRD man through and through, but not this year with their new wave boards.

This is a forum, you post a question you get different answers....that's how it works. If you don't want answers, and I think mine was pretty relevant, don't ask them or start a thread.]]> jenksruss ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:45:09 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6360#msg-6360 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6360#msg-6360
Agreed re board weights. If anything a slightly heavier board may be more planted and therefore easier to turn and control. I have had the Quatro Tempo twin in both wood and PVC (lighter) constructions. I can't say one was better than the other, just different. The wood was more planted but nice and smooth in the chop. The PVC did feel lighter and therefore felt faster over the chop and perhaps nicer for jumping. It felt more alive in turns but perhaps less controlled. However, I think a lot was down to bias from the board weight and not in actual board difference.

In the latest Boards it states that Jaws boards are 4kg heavier to give the control they need!]]> TonyD ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:39:44 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6359#msg-6359 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6359#msg-6359
"Extremely heavy" means at most 500grams more than other brands and yet not being the heaviest out there.

Your comment is like saying a car is slower than another because the side mirrors are too big.

500grams can be saved on a better mast or boom, or taking a shit.

Please blog responsibly, and apply common sense.

WP]]> woodpecker ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:10:46 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6356#msg-6356 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6356#msg-6356
Jim is actually starting to shape windsurf boards, he's been making surf boards for years, so I'm gonna try a couple of his prototypes and go from there. The good thing is you can also try loads of production boards at the same time, tell them what you like and don't like about them and create your shape from there.

There is the resale value issue, granted, but if it's a board you like you'll keep it till it wears away anyway and you can always get it resprayed through the years if you're that vain ;0)

It's a no brainer for me with the modern day prices for "cutting edge" quads.]]> jenksruss ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:59:48 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6353#msg-6353 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6353#msg-6353 TonyD ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:44:29 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6350#msg-6350 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6350#msg-6350
I also think the DC is too gunny for a one board quiver too.

Any thoughts on a custom?]]> jenksruss ASK A CLONE Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:54:54 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6349#msg-6349 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6349#msg-6349 woodpecker ASK A CLONE Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:25:47 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6348#msg-6348 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6348#msg-6348 -------------------------------------------------------
> I don't normally bother with this forum but there
> are some real rubbish answers here.
>
> Sailrepair is talking particular crap but I
> suppose that depends what he is selling this
> week.
>
> Whilst it's true that all the brands have had
> hiccups in their transitions to multi fin boards
> it is totally unfair to slag off Starboard for all
> their designs, some of which were groundbreaking
> – and only two actually had less than favourable
> reviews.
>
> The Evil Twins for example were very good in some
> of the sizes but not all. The early Quads (2010)
> were the first of their kind on the market and
> some people really love them, big fins and all.
> Personally, I found them too stiff on the wave and
> some sizes had a tendency to stay tacking in a
> straight line when you wanted to turn hard.
>
> But this is not the case with any of the 2011 Quad
> IQ boards, and each size is very user friendly and
> plug and play. The whole range has had rave
> reviews and, answering this thread, you should
> certainly consider the bigger boards if that is
> what you are after.

Billy
I have nothing against starboard, I'm a starboard dealer. All I'm saying is the demand for the new starboards is a lot less than it was for evo's. Its not good when they dump a design like the evil twin. I'm not saying anything about its performance but you'd be gutted if a month after you paid £1300 for one everyone is clearing them out at £650. People are then nervous about paying £1400 for the new model regardless of how good it is.

Once bitten twice shy.]]> sailrepair ASK A CLONE Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:04:48 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6329#msg-6329 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6329#msg-6329
That's what I'm doing at the moment, but going for a two board quiver instead, and at the current production board prices you'd be silly not to.

Maybe something to think about? (No I don't work in the windsurfing industry / for a board shaper)]]> jenksruss ASK A CLONE Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:43:29 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6327#msg-6327 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6327#msg-6327
Sailrepair is talking particular crap but I suppose that depends what he is selling this week.

Whilst it's true that all the brands have had hiccups in their transitions to multi fin boards it is totally unfair to slag off Starboard for all their designs, some of which were groundbreaking – and only two actually had less than favourable reviews.

The Evil Twins for example were very good in some of the sizes but not all. The early Quads (2010) were the first of their kind on the market and some people really love them, big fins and all. Personally, I found them too stiff on the wave and some sizes had a tendency to stay tacking in a straight line when you wanted to turn hard.

But this is not the case with any of the 2011 Quad IQ boards, and each size is very user friendly and plug and play. The whole range has had rave reviews and, answering this thread, you should certainly consider the bigger boards if that is what you are after.]]> Billy ASK A CLONE Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:26:27 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6326#msg-6326 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6326#msg-6326 woodpecker ASK A CLONE Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:04:33 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6321#msg-6321 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6321#msg-6321 I think Starboard have done a lot of damage to their wave baord market by discontinueing boards after about 6 months (evil Twin) and very mixed reviews. After years of building a strong following with the evo and acid they seem to have lost their way a bit. Meanwhile quatros market share has grown greatly on the back of good tests.

Personaly I (93kg) am on my second witchcraft 92ltr wave board it is my mid sized board and I love it.]]> sailrepair ASK A CLONE Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:47:55 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6320#msg-6320 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6320#msg-6320 woodpecker ASK A CLONE Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:15:08 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6316#msg-6316 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6316#msg-6316
i guess it is kind of marketing - i work in a windsurf shop and am trying to understand the market for wave boards better - who wants what - why they want it - what they are prepared to pay - basically is it a viable business proposition ?????

Good luck whatever you buy---

My 2 penniworth is that the DC's are freakin' awesome boards and the rrd's are a bit too planted (read dull) for me. The 2010 starboard quad was a shoooower of you know what but the 2011 is very good indeed - so good i bought one in fact !

laters
Davey]]> trendspotter ASK A CLONE Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:51:22 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6315#msg-6315 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6315#msg-6315
If you are looking a bit for "general blasting", I would say that there are better options out there than a quad-fin.

For a more thorough review on the DC91 Quad, go to:

[forum.tabou-boards.com]

Good luck!]]> drm ASK A CLONE Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:59:16 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6311#msg-6311 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6311#msg-6311
ok it was only in lightwind with big sails (5,7 5,3 5,0) but the dacurve fells small, very unstable pretty much like a 80l waveboard! the carving is crazy but the sub-planning sailing is really technical for a board of its size...

If you want an easy waveboard (yet exciting) because you don't sail that often and just wanna have fun, go for the pocket which is realy a lovely board. It feels stable when non planning and quick to plane. Being so short and compact, it's still very easy in the air or when overpowered. Plus the 2011 are in tri fin config!]]> NicDaFroggyDude ASK A CLONE Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:04:31 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6310#msg-6310 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6310#msg-6310 fat boy ASK A CLONE Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:47:07 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6307#msg-6307 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6307#msg-6307
Tried Starboards at Porto Pollo in Sardinia, not my cup of tea. Sailed the EVO 80, easy but not as exiting as Da Curve, for example. Also Starboard quad does not get the best reviews and maybe being the only with a different fin configuration does not help (big fins infront, small fins on the back). Though the slot box (invented by Tabou) looks great and simple. WP]]> woodpecker ASK A CLONE Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:12:09 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6306#msg-6306 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6306#msg-6306
Both those boards you mention are great products but Just out of interest why is it that the 2011 Starboard Quad isnt on your shortlist ??

Cheers
Davey]]> Trend anlyzer ASK A CLONE Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:58:37 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6305#msg-6305 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6305#msg-6305
How does the Da Curve compare to other high volume wave boards you've had; mainly in terms of difficulty and forgiveness? I was thinking about the RRD wave cult 92 as well. This last one I would expect more forgiving due to overall fuller outline, but the Da Curve I would expect to be more exiting. I am also around 77kg. The DC should be more difficult to sail, but does the float provide forgiveness for tacking and not doing a perfect jibe; or the outline is so compact that does not give you much time to recover? Also I would sail bump jump conditions.

I have used the DC85 2007 and was blown away. You'r comments would be much appreciated until we get a review.

Good winds, WP]]> woodpecker ASK A CLONE Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:50:48 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6270#msg-6270 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6270#msg-6270 drm ASK A CLONE Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:33:15 +0000 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6265#msg-6265 http://forums.boardseekermag.com/read.php?5,6265,6265#msg-6265
Will you guys be testing BIG wave boards in the 90's litres? Seems that with the new quad configuration these are a must for the quiver and also maybe as one board quiver. I weight 78kg, but don't sail much so these are easy boards to jump on and feel as if I you were sailing often. Also range is huge so can take down to 4.5m sails. By the way I am looking at getting the RRD wave cult 92 quad or the Tabou Da Curve Quad 91. Any comparisons among these would also be much appreciated.

Thank you, and good wind to you.

WP]]> woodpecker ASK A CLONE Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:49:26 +0000